Dating my 1980s ludwig drums
, of course, was the deciding factor but, hey, the details were fun to assimilate!Occasionally one sixties Japanese drum or drum kit would emerge as a winner, at least referring to the sound. While the production of guitars and amps was moved out of the factory by 1966, the production of drums there continued to grow. The drums were manufactured at Hoshino's subsidiary, Tama Seisakusho, which had opened in 1962 to manufacture Ibanez guitars and amplifiers.There is no exact date of when they stopped and switched to the next badge - there are cross-over drums.This was a transition badge and you will see it with and without a serial number it is prior to and during the move to Monroe.These are not the same style of paper labels seen during the 1971/72 time frame, as they have only one color. The same information has come from WFL II and Chuck Hueck at Ludwig - people much closer to what as happening than I can get without the benefit of time travel. There is some overlap with the black "RELIABLE ANTI-GALVANIC" stamp and the Round Blue Ludalloy sticker.
All I know is what I heard…when playing these budget kits in moments of weakness. I remember writing some vague forecast, in a Canadian, American, or German magazine, to the effect that the first wave of Japanese-made stencil brand drumsets would become the next object of affection for those who seek out anything smacking of “classic” or “vintage”.
The lowest serial number that I have owned is 1229. Of the drums I have seen, that is the drum with the lowest serial number for which there is a date stamp reported (DEC 4 1963), but not the drum with the earliest date stamp which has a serial number badge (serial number 1974, NOV 29 1963) which I owned but sold. White Blue White Your definition of wide range is a lot smaller than mine. I have been collecting serial numbers from (what appear to be) original bought-together sets and have seen larger ranges than those. Drums in the 1580000 - 1750000 serial number range might have either indicator (No reports of drums with both indicators).
Some day soon I will collate the numbers and present the data to the forum. I have seen a few other paper labels on later drums, all place on the outside of the shell rather than the inside. Preliminary Rough Timeline (That means do not quote this as a reliable indicator of when each was used - pun intended): 1968-70 A-G stamp black ink Main Line: Serial numbers 620797,635718, 643435, 663628, 702409 AUG 12 1968, SEP 6 1968, OCT 8 1968, OCT 9 1968, DEC 12 1968, JAN 6 1970 trimmed B/O badge Standards - Serial number 29078 1969-77ish RELIABLE ANTI-GALVANIC stamp black ink Main line: Total of 50 reports. Date Stamps: earliest - DEC 18 1969, latest - NOV 12 1971; Date Codes 4272, 31270 Standards: Serial Numbers 36728, 52553, 72176, 83431, 84038, 85402; Date Stamps JUL 30 1971 and AUG 17 1971 Date Code 21720 1973ish Rectangular white sticker with blue letters Main line Serial Number 1100985 1973ish Oval blue sticker with white or gold letters Main line Serial Numbers 117xxxx, 118xxxx 1976ish - 1980s Round Blue Ludalloy Reliable Plating sticker Main line Serial Numbers: lowest - 1585797, high - 3112878. kurt, I do not doubt the story about the Ludwig's use of badges without regard to their serial numbers.
The truth under those tacky, beautiful wraps could drastically bump up the price for sale–on e Bay, Craig’s List, retail, and private–of Pearl drums, especially the 1960s so-called stencil-brand rickety budget drum kits. I described my experience acquiring such a drum kit in these pages.
Remember me ranting at length and in wonder of the tone emanating from the budget Coronet drumset, the one that cost me well under US?